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		<title>By: faulu</title>
		<link>http://damomma.com/2009/07/09/speaking-out/comment-page-2#comment-128631</link>
		<dc:creator>faulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Karin....thank you!

Yours is a valid point. This is what I was trying to say by the  &quot;cast a stone &quot; comment.&quot; This is not a black-or-white issue and it bothers me (but I digress) that there are some literally foaming at the mouth to sling shots .  Do adults lie? yes! Do kids lie? yes! since when has not judging being equivalent to enabling as Katy put it?   If I were a juror and had ALL the facts of this case, then I would cast a vote-guilty or innocent! Right now, we&#039;re all going by what the media has fed us and let&#039;s not get into the bias involved-we don&#039;t have ALL the facts .  Let&#039;s restrain ourselves like civilized human beings, this mob-justice mentality is  wrong-it borders on mild hysteria. Refraining from casting judgment  without facts does not mean we are condoning the act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Karin&#8230;.thank you!</p>
<p>Yours is a valid point. This is what I was trying to say by the  &#8220;cast a stone &#8221; comment.&#8221; This is not a black-or-white issue and it bothers me (but I digress) that there are some literally foaming at the mouth to sling shots .  Do adults lie? yes! Do kids lie? yes! since when has not judging being equivalent to enabling as Katy put it?   If I were a juror and had ALL the facts of this case, then I would cast a vote-guilty or innocent! Right now, we&#8217;re all going by what the media has fed us and let&#8217;s not get into the bias involved-we don&#8217;t have ALL the facts .  Let&#8217;s restrain ourselves like civilized human beings, this mob-justice mentality is  wrong-it borders on mild hysteria. Refraining from casting judgment  without facts does not mean we are condoning the act.</p>
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		<title>By: Karin from the Netherlands</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karin from the Netherlands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I disagree, I never said or thought that about the kids. Its not that black and white, there is the grey area. 

Am not judging MJ and I am not judging the kids. That is not up to me.

Your view is a bit like &quot;he who is not with me is against me.&quot;  You are turning it around the wrong way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I disagree, I never said or thought that about the kids. Its not that black and white, there is the grey area. </p>
<p>Am not judging MJ and I am not judging the kids. That is not up to me.</p>
<p>Your view is a bit like &#8220;he who is not with me is against me.&#8221;  You are turning it around the wrong way.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://damomma.com/2009/07/09/speaking-out/comment-page-2#comment-128604</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karin -- If Jackson is innocent, his accusers are guilty.  So by saying &quot;innocent until proven guilty&quot;  about Jackson you are saying &quot;guilty until proven innocent&quot; about the kids.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karin &#8212; If Jackson is innocent, his accusers are guilty.  So by saying &#8220;innocent until proven guilty&#8221;  about Jackson you are saying &#8220;guilty until proven innocent&#8221; about the kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Karin from the Netherlands</title>
		<link>http://damomma.com/2009/07/09/speaking-out/comment-page-2#comment-128572</link>
		<dc:creator>Karin from the Netherlands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz, whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?  I think Sheila Jackson Lee made a fair point here. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;If Jackson is innocent, then they are guilty: of making accusations, of speaking ugly truths or untruths&quot;&lt;i&gt;

It does happen you know, false accusations.

I am not a fan of MJ, and I do think he was an addict. But I can&#039;t judge him, that is not up to me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?  I think Sheila Jackson Lee made a fair point here. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;If Jackson is innocent, then they are guilty: of making accusations, of speaking ugly truths or untruths&#8221;</i><i></p>
<p>It does happen you know, false accusations.</p>
<p>I am not a fan of MJ, and I do think he was an addict. But I can&#8217;t judge him, that is not up to me</i></p>
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		<title>By: shea</title>
		<link>http://damomma.com/2009/07/09/speaking-out/comment-page-2#comment-128563</link>
		<dc:creator>shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth&#039;s quote:
Here were the choices facing the parent: 1) put your child through a humiliating court experience facing his abuser in front of the world, having his integrity and sexuality questioned, watching lawyers rip himself and his parents apart; 2) avoid all of that and have your child’s education, health care, housing, food and that of his children covered for the rest of his life.

I agree....until you have  been put in this  unfathomable situation, you don&#039;t know how you&#039;d respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth&#8217;s quote:<br />
Here were the choices facing the parent: 1) put your child through a humiliating court experience facing his abuser in front of the world, having his integrity and sexuality questioned, watching lawyers rip himself and his parents apart; 2) avoid all of that and have your child’s education, health care, housing, food and that of his children covered for the rest of his life.</p>
<p>I agree&#8230;.until you have  been put in this  unfathomable situation, you don&#8217;t know how you&#8217;d respond.</p>
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		<title>By: Tigpuppy</title>
		<link>http://damomma.com/2009/07/09/speaking-out/comment-page-2#comment-128546</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigpuppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never thought the man was that great.  Every time I saw or heard him it gave me the whillies.  I&#039;m sick to death of hearing about him already.

The man was a sicko.  Good riddance and I personally hope he pays for an eternity for what he did when he was on this earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought the man was that great.  Every time I saw or heard him it gave me the whillies.  I&#8217;m sick to death of hearing about him already.</p>
<p>The man was a sicko.  Good riddance and I personally hope he pays for an eternity for what he did when he was on this earth.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://damomma.com/2009/07/09/speaking-out/comment-page-2#comment-128479</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real guilty people in this story are the parents for ever allowing their children alone with him.  And I always thought he was guilty - until I myself became a parent.  No way in Hell would I ever allow someone to pay me off and not want the man to burn!  Something is up there - bad parenting all-around!  Just money-hungry people wanting some of his $ is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real guilty people in this story are the parents for ever allowing their children alone with him.  And I always thought he was guilty &#8211; until I myself became a parent.  No way in Hell would I ever allow someone to pay me off and not want the man to burn!  Something is up there &#8211; bad parenting all-around!  Just money-hungry people wanting some of his $ is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen, I am so sorry for your loss. I too, grew up with the Jackson 5.  In fact my very first live concert was the Jackson.

MJ  will answer to God for whatever misdeeds he may have been guilty of, as all of us will eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen, I am so sorry for your loss. I too, grew up with the Jackson 5.  In fact my very first live concert was the Jackson.</p>
<p>MJ  will answer to God for whatever misdeeds he may have been guilty of, as all of us will eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katy, 

I have been trying to think of a way to respond to this post, which, with respect, I completely disagree with.  You said it better than I could.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katy, </p>
<p>I have been trying to think of a way to respond to this post, which, with respect, I completely disagree with.  You said it better than I could.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot agree more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot agree more!</p>
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